6/23/2023 0 Comments The iliad and the odyssey were![]() ![]() Even if we were to accept for the moment the dubious notion that parts of the Homeric Cycle are drawn from some text that predates our Iliad and Odyssey, the fundamental objection remains the same: when we are dealing with the traditional poetry of the Homeric (and Hesiodic) compositions, it is not justifiable to claim that a passage in any text can refer to another passage in another text. The same sort of flaw afflicts the argument of other experts who seek to show that the Odyssean passage in question refers to some lost passage in the Homeric Cycle (specifically, the Cypria). But in this line of reasoning there is a flaw that we have yet to single out: it presupposes that one text (the Odyssey) is here referring to another text (the Iliad). As we have already seen, some experts argue that the quarrel of Achilles and Odysseus in Odyssey viii is a pastiche actually based on the opening of our Iliad, where Achilles and Agamemnon have their memorable quarrel. ![]() More on Strife and the Human ConditionĪppendix. The Best of the Achaeans Confronts an Aeneid Tradition Epos, the Language of Blame, and the Worst of the Achaeansġ5. Poetic Visions of Immortality for the Hero The Death of Achilles and a Festival at Delphi A Conflict between Odysseus and Achilles in the IliadĤ. ![]()
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